Clarence Jones

I am so glad to hear you say that, both from you and Stan, both, because it's really been the

the passion for me and the work for us to talk about how do we collaborate across these boundaries in order to have community health.

I agree with you that it is a community, has to be a part of the equation.

But one of the things, and I'm gonna say this because, and this is just me, I think that in this work, you ask, how do we find the right ones?

You have to find those organizations that self-identify that that is their passion.

And I think that one of the things that has happened for me, one of the heartaches for me has been we can no longer afford to...

you know, to do this work with folks just because it's a job.

There has to be some real self-identified self-interest in this work.

I mean, we're at that place right now where we have to have people self-identify what they want to do.

And we have to be willing to help them to make that, to help them to do those kinds of things.

And so I'm very much, I believe very much 100% of what both you and Stan have just said.

I believe that.

And I think that we have to get to a point where we start working together more collaboratively in order to really address these issues.

And it's going to be more and more important as we go through this new transition.

And I was going to say one thing too.

Barry, you talked about as a physician, we're not political.

We try not to be political.

But a lot of the people that we serve, their health is political.

They will or will not take a vaccine because of their political views.

You know what I mean?