Clarissa Ward
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326 appearances
5 recordings
4 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 4 Jun
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There are conversations being had.
There are documents being passed back and forth.
And yet we are still seeing up to 100 Ukrainians every single week fleeing into Romania.
And I sat down in a cafe in a town called Sighet on the border with
a 34-year-old taxi driver from Kyiv called Victor, who had literally just crossed hours before from Ukraine on his own, five days in the mountains, four nights, at one stage thought he might die.
And I was like, what are you doing?
Why would you do this?
And he was very matter-of-fact about it.
He said, you know, to leave is a risk, but to stay is a death sentence.
And I think you are seeing a lot of men, and again, it's not always spoken about, who are coming to the same conclusion, who feel that they don't have a future if they stay in Ukraine and who are increasingly turning towards the most desperate option, which is to try to leave the country illegally.
No, and I think we do the Ukrainians a disservice, actually.
When we lionize them to the point of being superhuman, we are actually stripping them of their humanity.
Many Ukrainians are ordinary people who want to build a great life and a better future for their families.
And of course, they love their country.
And of course, they hate what's happened.
But there's also a limit.
There's a limit.
And it's so interesting when I have had conversations with Ukrainians privately for years where they have talked about concessions of territory in Donbass, for example.
and where they have privately acknowledged that, you know, if that's what it would take, then of course we should do it.
But because no one wants to say it publicly, and because I think in no small part as well, the narrative around Ukraine, as you just alluded to, has been, these guys are superhuman, they can do anything, they're the underdog that has given a bloody nose, and keep going, guys, you're amazing.
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