Clark Fredericks
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And my very first day there, a therapist came to my cell and she said, I can't believe you're here. I followed your case when it was on TV. And she goes, I just saw your name come across my computer and I came right over. Would you start therapy with me? I said, yeah, absolutely. And so it took me having to go to prison to get therapy for the first time in my life, which is another irony. Yeah.
And my very first day there, a therapist came to my cell and she said, I can't believe you're here. I followed your case when it was on TV. And she goes, I just saw your name come across my computer and I came right over. Would you start therapy with me? I said, yeah, absolutely. And so it took me having to go to prison to get therapy for the first time in my life, which is another irony. Yeah.
And then I joined – she ran a group class for childhood trauma. And she goes, you know, like we would have at most 10 guys in the class. She goes, every frigging inmate in here should be – every inmate has childhood trauma. You know, but guys don't address anything. You know, what was shocking to me is I'm in my cell one day and our tier ran – GED classes, which most of the tiers did.
And then I joined – she ran a group class for childhood trauma. And she goes, you know, like we would have at most 10 guys in the class. She goes, every frigging inmate in here should be – every inmate has childhood trauma. You know, but guys don't address anything. You know, what was shocking to me is I'm in my cell one day and our tier ran – GED classes, which most of the tiers did.
But at most I ever saw out there was four guys. It was usually two to four. And I was like, oh, that's all who need their GED. Well, we had the same guards work the same shifts all the time. And then a couple months down the road, the guard who worked that morning shift, the regular guard wasn't there. And this new guy called out, all right, GED classes. And he started to do a roll call.
But at most I ever saw out there was four guys. It was usually two to four. And I was like, oh, that's all who need their GED. Well, we had the same guards work the same shifts all the time. And then a couple months down the road, the guard who worked that morning shift, the regular guard wasn't there. And this new guy called out, all right, GED classes. And he started to do a roll call.
of all the people that should be coming out. And it was literally every cell. It was a two-tier thing. It was every cell, top and bottom. He's calling out... 95% of the guys for GED classes. I was like, all these fucking guys are in here, need their GED, are here because they don't have education, because they had shitty upbringings, and they're not even taking a free GED while they're here.
of all the people that should be coming out. And it was literally every cell. It was a two-tier thing. It was every cell, top and bottom. He's calling out... 95% of the guys for GED classes. I was like, all these fucking guys are in here, need their GED, are here because they don't have education, because they had shitty upbringings, and they're not even taking a free GED while they're here.
Like what a waste. That was shocking to me. Wow.
Like what a waste. That was shocking to me. Wow.
Yeah, like, you know, everything you and I just went through, I go through with her.
Yeah, like, you know, everything you and I just went through, I go through with her.
I mean, does it feel like you're exiting the Matrix or something? Yeah, it's just like, oh, like, man, what the fuck? You know, I'd just be like, what the hell, man? Like, everything I did in life was... It goes right back to that. It just dictated all my behaviors. Just couldn't commit to a relationship, couldn't commit to a job, drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex, not wanting to be trapped, just...
I mean, does it feel like you're exiting the Matrix or something? Yeah, it's just like, oh, like, man, what the fuck? You know, I'd just be like, what the hell, man? Like, everything I did in life was... It goes right back to that. It just dictated all my behaviors. Just couldn't commit to a relationship, couldn't commit to a job, drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex, not wanting to be trapped, just...
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it all comes down to, you have to confront, you have to like finally address the 500 pound gorilla in the room. Like, you know, like do a little self-analysis, you know, you know, like just take a step back and, and figure out why you're doing the things you're doing. Like, why, why are you going from one destructive relationship after another?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it all comes down to, you have to confront, you have to like finally address the 500 pound gorilla in the room. Like, you know, like do a little self-analysis, you know, you know, like just take a step back and, and figure out why you're doing the things you're doing. Like, why, why are you going from one destructive relationship after another?
You know, we, we replicate in life what we knew in our childhood. You're like, I just, I have... just so many women that reach out to me who are just nonstop with these horrible relationships because their early childhood was horror.
You know, we, we replicate in life what we knew in our childhood. You're like, I just, I have... just so many women that reach out to me who are just nonstop with these horrible relationships because their early childhood was horror.