Clay Bavor
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1,248 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 4 Jul
Clay Bavor’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We have not yet appreciated the unbounded demand for, call it frontier levels of intelligence.
Part of the driver of the difference is probably the willingness of Chinese companies to do scaled distillation of the frontier models.
If you can't build frontier models yourself, OK, maybe the next best approach is to distill them and offer them up.
Every one of our rounds, we actually guided to and took a lower price than we could have.
Some of our most effective employees at the entire company are 22 or 23 years old and have been completely AI-pilled.
We completely changed our engineering interview process.
So Brett and I met 20 years ago.
We both started our careers in the associate product management program at Google.
He was class one.
I was class three.
We met in the context of some kind of shared project that we were assigned to and kind of hit it off and ended up staying in touch socially through mostly a monthly poker group that in a good year might play two or three times, so not quite monthly.
and had always wanted to work together and almost did a couple of times.
I think when Brett left, I can't remember if it was for FriendFeed or Quip, tried to get me to join that.
The short answer is twofold.
One, I just loved my time at Google.
Culturally, it was me.
I learned more than I ever imagined having learned in those years.
The people were so extraordinary to work with.
And I had a series of managers and leaders I got to work with who took bets on me, gave me, on paper at least, more responsibility than I deserved and got to work on just truly fascinating things.
And so I was just incredibly happy and engaged and growing as a person and professional.
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