Clay Travis

So those don't really rate and exist now. Is there a market for that for real debate in your mind, or does it only work on social media, clipped versions?

There used to be real debates out there. And other than like Bill Maher, where you can get a smart, sometimes smart Republican-ish person and a smart Democrat-ish person, there aren't real debate shows other than what CNN's trying with Scott Jennings.

There used to be real debates out there. And other than like Bill Maher, where you can get a smart, sometimes smart Republican-ish person and a smart Democrat-ish person, there aren't real debate shows other than what CNN's trying with Scott Jennings.

There used to be real debates out there. And other than like Bill Maher, where you can get a smart, sometimes smart Republican-ish person and a smart Democrat-ish person, there aren't real debate shows other than what CNN's trying with Scott Jennings.

That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie.

That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie.

That's what immediately comes to mind is the movie.

They don't make good arguments. And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good. Right. I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat.

They don't make good arguments. And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good. Right. I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat.

They don't make good arguments. And to a large extent, they don't make good arguments because they don't have to grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolf Hitler, your argument doesn't have to be that good. Right. I mean, I think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom, who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat.

Ron DeSantis wiped the floor with him when Sean Hannity hosted their debate about a year and a half ago or whatever it was. You remember that? It basically came down to COVID leadership.

Ron DeSantis wiped the floor with him when Sean Hannity hosted their debate about a year and a half ago or whatever it was. You remember that? It basically came down to COVID leadership.

Ron DeSantis wiped the floor with him when Sean Hannity hosted their debate about a year and a half ago or whatever it was. You remember that? It basically came down to COVID leadership.

Trump is popular in Israel like he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming, states that he won by the largest-ish margins in the 2024 election. That contextualizes it.

Trump is popular in Israel like he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming, states that he won by the largest-ish margins in the 2024 election. That contextualizes it.

Trump is popular in Israel like he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming, states that he won by the largest-ish margins in the 2024 election. That contextualizes it.

There is on social media a great demand for the intersection. We'll play some Gavin Newsom. And it seems to me that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way with people on the other side of the aisle. I think there's a desperate demand actually for that.

There is on social media a great demand for the intersection. We'll play some Gavin Newsom. And it seems to me that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way with people on the other side of the aisle. I think there's a desperate demand actually for that.

There is on social media a great demand for the intersection. We'll play some Gavin Newsom. And it seems to me that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way with people on the other side of the aisle. I think there's a desperate demand actually for that.

I'm not sure it translates on television because, Buck, you're going to do Fox News in a little bit, and I know Fox News has a massive audience, but from a social media perspective, it often feels like basically television exists so that small segments of television can be clipped and shared on social media, whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram Reels, whether it's Twitter.