Clay Travis

We'll open up phone lines, but that is the reality of where we are right now.

I also think, Buck, we're dealing with a me-too-like feeding frenzy.

I'll give you an example.

Howard Lutnick, whatever you think about him, and I don't know Howard Lutnick personally, he took his family on a boat and his kids to have lunch with Jeffrey Epstein in the Caribbean.

You might not like that,

But the idea that he's in some way engaged in some sort of nefarious underage sex ring when he took his own children and his wife to have lunch on the Caribbean island when he was on a boat in the Caribbean.

If your name is in there, it's a feeding frenzy like the Me Too thing where people don't actually look at the accusations and details themselves.

All of that is true.

I would add in the reason why a lot of people aren't being honest with you across a lot of media about this is because, much like in Me Too, if you speak out, a lot of people are afraid that they're going to become targets.

So there's a lot of people out there who agree with 100% of everything that Buck and I just said in media, and they won't tell it to you because they're afraid that suddenly everybody's going to target them.

Much like in Me Too, I'll give you an example.

The Matt Damon one was a good one.

Remember when Matt Damon came out and said, hey...

You know, there's a big difference between grabbing some woman's butt at a party and rape.

And we should keep in mind that every accusation in Me Too is not the same.

And remember, he got ripped to shreds by people in Hollywood who said, oh, no, no, no.

There is no difference.

Like, wait a minute.

The whole reason we have a criminal justice system is...

is because there is a difference between grabbing a girl's butt at a party and actual rape.