Clayton Curtis

So, man, I get a lot of the times are redesigns, permitting, core permits, whether it be if we're running through like a Mark Twain National Forest or something, you have to have...

conservation permits and and stuff like that just to even have trucks in these places um when you get when we go underground with fiber that's it gets a lot more technical because you know there's it just depends on where you're at and and how many low how many utilities are actually in the ground and and how how hot of a spot it is um a lot of the times they'll try to if they get an instance like that try to shoot at aerial it's cheaper to go aerial that way too um but

Then you'll run into roadblocks like, so a lot of these co-ops, they're their poles.

But when you go to another town over, it's another co-op's poles.

And so you've got to get permitting for every single co-op that has these poles, right?

And so permitting's a big one.

Redesign's a big one.

A lot of times we'll get out to the field and our crews will be like, okay, yeah, it's supposed to be ran like this, although these seven poles aren't here.

So, you know.

Always.

Because a lot of the times...

Sorry, engineers that see this, but a lot of the times it's behind the computer and it's not out in the field.

Yeah.

And so they're back behind.

They're like, oh, yeah, pull here, pull here.

Well, it was 20 years ago.

Yeah.

But it's totally different now.

It's my problem.

Click and drag.