Cleo Pascal

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998 appearances 16 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 5d ago

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Bannon`s War Room · WarRoom Special: Sea Power And Freedom Celebrating Navy 250 · 6 Oct 2025 podcast

But, you know, in terms of the fentanyl being revenge for the opium war, first of all, the U.S.

wasn't involved in the opium war.

Second of all, the opium war was wrong.

And so it's sort of like saying we have slavery in Xinjiang because you had slavery in the U.S.

at some point.

Two wrongs definitely do not make a right.

And third, it gives this narrative warfare weapon to give them a pass and at the same time hit back at the U.S.

I think they use different aspects of unrestricted warfare, depending on what works.

So, for example, in the case of—you don't see the sort of fentanyl flood in the U.K.

that you do here in the U.S., but what you do see is a buying up of elites, including the think tank community, that's giving rise to a situation where, for example, the Diego Garcia military base is coming under risk.

And I think the weak point there isn't Mauritius, it's the U.K., and it's because of the way that they've tried to undermine the U.K.

So I think they've got this toolkit, as described, and the 24 Warfares, Unrestricted Warfare, plus many others they've invented since then.

And they will use as they like, but one of the key, the top three of those warfares is this sort of psychological warfare, and they've also got media warfare.

And that is these things like the Thucydides Trap or...

you know, the fentanyl is the opium war, things like that, that put you on the back foot and make it so that you're not looking at China as its own thing, but you get caught up in these other intellectual eddies that can paralyze you or whip you in circles or give justification to not just say, hold on a second, this is absolutely wrong and it has to be stopped.

It's been a great day and an honor to spend it with you and with the posse watching as well.

And just for those of you who aren't in the Navy, to understand that this affects your daily lives in so many ways.

The old saying of trade follows the flag, this is about

the economy and economic growth.

And I would argue also the currency follows the flag.

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