Cliff Sims

And even the things that I disagree with, it's easy.

I extend to him the same grace that I've extended to myself so many times that I can't even count it.

And thank God that Jesus Christ extended that grace to me because I definitely didn't deserve it from him.

So that whole experience is,

I try to reflect in this new book because I think there were so many faith lessons to take away from working for Trump, but also interacting with members of the media.

I mean, I've seen it all.

I went on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

And I mean, that's another one where I definitely didn't want to meet before we went out there because I'm like putting my battle armor on, like we're gonna go out here and it's gonna be like on.

And Stephen Colbert, in the commercial break, right before I went out to go on the show, comes up to me backstage and shakes my hand and says, thank you for being willing to come on my show.

He said, I want you to know, if the audience boos you or heckles you, I will stop the show, stop the cameras, and say, we're not gonna treat our guests that way.

You can disagree with them, but you're not gonna mistreat our guests.

And I just want you to know if that happens, that I'm gonna have your back when we go up there.

I don't agree with Stephen Colbert on anything politically.

And we joked and had it out on different things and you know, whatever, and it was totally fine.

But I think that's such a rare thing, especially in people in the media today.

The first time I went on Good Morning America, it's the first interview I did for my book, and George Stephanopoulos is gonna interview me.

And I'm waiting, sitting there waiting at the table for him to come over in the commercial break.

and he's walking over and I'm sitting there and they start counting down, the camera's gonna come on in five, four, three, two, and at two, the production assistant walks over and pulls the pad in my chair out from under me so that I'll like,

sit down and look shorter than George Stephanopoulos on TV just to screw with me right before the interview starts.

And the first thing Stephanopoulos does is ask some trumped up story about like, we hear you actually got fired from the White House instead of, you know, it's just like a picture into, you talk about people's character,