Co-worker
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first heard May 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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Nathan was 16 years old at the time that this crime was committed. Nathan is now 24. You're talking about a kid versus an adult. So I think maybe you focus on him.
We served him with a subpoena to come testify in front of the grand jury. I made a decision to grant him immunity at the time if he would tell us the full truth. And then fate sort of took over from there.
He held up the immunity paper and said, this is good no matter what I tell you. And I said yes. He put his hands on the rail, and boy, that testimony was gripping.
It's like watching the weight of the world being lifted off this young man's shoulders.
He says that he's on vacation with his whole family. They have Heather there. And his dad said to him the night before, you and I are leaving early tomorrow. And they drove to Eunice Smith's nursing home. And his dad said, good, she's at work.
He told Nathan he was going to get Bonnie. Nathan set up a tent in the backyard.
He's eating lunch. Next thing he hears is eight or nine gunshots, and they're close. They're in his driveway. He walks outside, and that's when he sees feet with tennis shoes on and tan scrubs. There are a few things that stay with me, like he remembers that he was eating leftover deli meat sandwiches from Heather's graduation party.
If you're making a story up, you don't go that detailed into what kind of lunch you're having.
And they start a massive fire. It had to be stoked all day, all night, every couple of hours. And Roger had Nathan help him do that.
I'll be honest, we didn't decide it. It was kind of thrust upon us by an investigator in Jersey County. And all of us were kind of like, yeah, go ahead, whatever.
My partner and I said, this is just never going to get any better. We have everything we're ever going to get. So we thought we'd swing the bat.
Nathan was on the stand for a good two to three hours, maybe more. I mean, just like in the grand jury, you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom while he's testifying. Because family secrets are spilling out in this courtroom. I mean, he's telling a cold, hard, disgusting story that clearly there was no doubt that was truthful.
Nathan can be hard to read. He was ashamed. He knew what he had done was wrong. He knew what his father had done was wrong, and he knew that helping clean up was wrong. He was very remorseful.
That fire, others have testified, had to be quite large to burn a body like that down to the fragments that we found.
It was pretty short. And I think the way that Heather was in the police interviews is the way she was on the stand.
Every time she cried, it was because she said, I never wanted this to happen to Bonnie. I never meant for this to happen to Bonnie.
Nathan didn't have a choice. If Nathan didn't help his father dispose of this crime, Nathan's a dead man. And let's not forget, he was a barely 16-year-old boy.
Bonnie. That finally she could be at rest. I don't believe in the word closure. It doesn't exist in my mind. But that Bonnie can now rest peacefully.
He said, I don't have anything to be sorry for. I won't apologize because I've done nothing wrong. And that says a lot about his mindset. Sure does.
He was charged with first degree murder while using a firearm. He received 40 years in the Department of Corrections for the murder, plus 25 years for the gun enhancement.
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