Coco Kahn

So often when we think about love, we think of it outside of politics. You know, we're a politics podcast, so why are we having a conversation about love? And I guess I wanted to ask you, why do you think love is a political issue?

So often when we think about love, we think of it outside of politics. You know, we're a politics podcast, so why are we having a conversation about love? And I guess I wanted to ask you, why do you think love is a political issue?

And also sometimes it can feel implicit in that is that therefore women should pair up with these men. That's what you must do. I don't want to. Yeah.

And also sometimes it can feel implicit in that is that therefore women should pair up with these men. That's what you must do. I don't want to. Yeah.

I'll just come back to this point about the business and the capitalism of love. There's something about this particular moment, and I don't know if I'm right about this, where it's not in commercial interest for people to actually find love. Like it's better for them to remain lonely, to feel that it's their fault so that they buy more cosmetics or they do, you know, have more whatever juices.

I'll just come back to this point about the business and the capitalism of love. There's something about this particular moment, and I don't know if I'm right about this, where it's not in commercial interest for people to actually find love. Like it's better for them to remain lonely, to feel that it's their fault so that they buy more cosmetics or they do, you know, have more whatever juices.

And for the app's point of view, the more users, the better, right? So despite the famous slogan of knit hinge designed to be deleted, that's not necessarily the case. Does that sound right to you?

And for the app's point of view, the more users, the better, right? So despite the famous slogan of knit hinge designed to be deleted, that's not necessarily the case. Does that sound right to you?

I mean, this conversation is also tied to the declining birth rate conversation. Do you think it's the government's role to get involved with this?

I mean, this conversation is also tied to the declining birth rate conversation. Do you think it's the government's role to get involved with this?

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, you, in the book, you devote a chapter to motherhood and you write, you know, as a society, we profess our love to mothers, but it's clear that we often despise them. Just thinking about what you're saying about, like, how much hatred there is. I mean, I also grew up single. Mum, if anyone's seen my father, please direct him to a child support agency.

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, you, in the book, you devote a chapter to motherhood and you write, you know, as a society, we profess our love to mothers, but it's clear that we often despise them. Just thinking about what you're saying about, like, how much hatred there is. I mean, I also grew up single. Mum, if anyone's seen my father, please direct him to a child support agency.

I don't know how long those claims... Literally the same. Please, there's 36 years of money I'm owed, so please, please find me. Yeah, same. And I think you're right. Like, you know, the villainisation of single mums is testimony to this. These are meant to be the mothers that we supposedly love. Right-wing groups are obsessed with the mother and they use it to be a weapon of oppression.

I don't know how long those claims... Literally the same. Please, there's 36 years of money I'm owed, so please, please find me. Yeah, same. And I think you're right. Like, you know, the villainisation of single mums is testimony to this. These are meant to be the mothers that we supposedly love. Right-wing groups are obsessed with the mother and they use it to be a weapon of oppression.

What did you observe in your book around that?

What did you observe in your book around that?

So am I right in thinking that maybe we need to move away from romantic love then?

So am I right in thinking that maybe we need to move away from romantic love then?

And no one to ask you when your house is burnt down. Yeah. Yeah. I do have one last question for you. And, you know, we talked about love, but we also briefly touched upon hate. And there's a lot of hate going around in society. And I think it's fair to say that there can be, you know, thinking about politics, there can be this desire to just see your opponent suffer, really.

And no one to ask you when your house is burnt down. Yeah. Yeah. I do have one last question for you. And, you know, we talked about love, but we also briefly touched upon hate. And there's a lot of hate going around in society. And I think it's fair to say that there can be, you know, thinking about politics, there can be this desire to just see your opponent suffer, really.