Coco Kahn
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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Musk has thrown his support behind far-right politicians across the world, praising Canada's far-right populist candidate and openly endorsing the far-right AFD party in Germany, to name just a few. But aside from Musk, who else stands to benefit and what's the risk to our democracy?
You observed there was a system cultivating this far-right moment quite some while ago, right?
15 years ahead. I mean, well done on this terrible thing.
So just briefly, Alt-Reich is part of the title. I must confess, I hadn't heard that phrase before. What is it? When we say Alt-Reich, what do we mean?
No, I mean, I'm really glad you said that because, you know, we mentioned earlier about the AFD and I remember reading about a chilling story regarding them this week about how they're, they would call them provocative leaflets for the upcoming election are plane tickets and, And they're addressed to the illegal immigrant. And it's essentially like a promise of deportation.
I grew up in Barking and Dagenham where there was a really strong BNP moment. We never got leaflets as powerfully horrible as that, but we did get BNP leaflets. And I remember the feeling of being a brown British person and getting a leaflet like that and then going to a mixed school and that feeling of separation that had been sparked up by this.
And it reminded me like, OK, that's a really good reminder. These people are not far right. They're white supremacists. Because you say far right, it just sounds, do you know what I mean? Like it might sound like a legitimate part of democracy. But what we're actually describing is fascists, Nazis, or a genus of anyway.
Right. Now they say they're about integration. But a leaflet like that's not about integrating. It's about dividing. Why do you think they are toning it down? Is it because they know no one will vote for it?
I'm glad you mentioned about how these disparate groups and these disparate motivations can coalesce around these kind of shared aims. Not everyone involved in this network, this alt-right network, will necessarily be a Nazi. But for whatever reason, they think it's politically expedient to work together with groups that if they're not Nazi now, then they certainly have been Nazi before.
I mean, I was definitely when you were talking about Tufton Street there, I thought to myself, oh, I'm sure someone would. They clip this bit up. They say PSUK. What is this conspiracy theory? Tufton Street are all Nazis. I thought Tufton Street were just neoliberals. But I think it's fair to say, you know.
People can have political expedience and sort of share positions with each other, even though they don't agree on everything, which is a really long way of saying, so what on earth does Nigel Farage get out of this allegiance to Putin? How is it expedient to him? What does he gain from it?
I just love lunch.
And while you're at it, pod listeners, don't forget that you can see our lovely faces on our YouTube page. So last week we had a lovely comment from one of our listeners. Glass Spider wrote in that Nish looks like his night never ended. He just slopped over into the next day.
You don't have to justify your appearance.
Personally, I think it's a compliment. I mean, these days with the closing hours in London, if you had an all-nighter, good for you, mate. Share the recommendations.
So something we've been wrestling with here on Pod Save the UK is how much we should be engaging with the far-right rhetoric, bollocks, whatever you want to call it, and whether we should spend some time in a new facts versus fuckwits section, which would be designed to debunk the disinformation diarrhea.
Many of you do want us to be careful about giving too much attention to the disinformation. Catherine said, Ridley said, Ridley said,
So there's actually a helpful formula that we can all follow, says Israel. It's known as the truth sandwich. So step one, lead with the real story. Step two, highlight the problem. Maybe here you can do some myth busting. And step three, come back to the real story and what can be done.
In practice, I'm just thinking, what could it be? Okay, article says Bob Dylan's never made a bad song. Okay, so that's the story. Now, what's the problem? However, that article was written by Nish Kumar, who is famously a Bob Dylan evangelist and cannot see clearly on these things. So come back to the real story. Bob Dylan hasn't had a good album for many years.
Sure, sure, sure, sure. That's simply untrue.
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