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And I focus on the aspects of the compliment that have to do with like...

What do they find interesting?

I kind of make them, reveal to them that you shouldn't care about the number of views.

That said, I do admire, very different from me, but I admire Mr. Beast who unapologetically-

says the number is all that matters.

Basically, the number shows, the number of views you get shows how much

I don't know, joy you brought to people's lives.

Because if they watched the thing, they kept watching the thing.

They didn't tune out.

That means they loved it.

You brought value to their life.

You brought enjoyment.

And I'm going to bring the maximum amount of enjoyment to the maximum number of people.

And I'm going to do the most epic videos and all that kind of stuff.

So I admire that when you're so unapologetically into the numbers.

and also growing, optimize it for long-term creative growth.

Sure.

I think the thing that people don't, I mean, maybe I don't know, I actually don't know enough about Jimmy, but like,

To me, the thing that seems to be special about him isn't the Moneyball aspect.

That's really important, is taking the data seriously.