Colby Hall

I wore a hoodie.

People got mad at me.

I've been doing that for years.

And then I think Anderson did it for some time, especially during COVID.

We were all very dressed down for the most part during COVID.

So I don't think that that part is new.

But just as you say, it looks performative.

You know, if they're going to if they want to CNN doesn't need to to be a podcast place.

If they want to go streaming, put the podcasters on there.

And if they want to do podcasters on their air, hire podcasters to do it like Amy until it's until it's that she contracts out people to do, you know, specials and documentaries contracted out to some people who already have successful shows.

I'm not I'm not for myself.

I'm not saying this for me, but.

Get some people who do some podcasts and who do great podcasts and put it on your network.

Virginia Guthrie?

You mean Virginia Mosley?

I will also say, but hold on one second.

But they don't know how to do it and it's just not in them.

They are old school,

you know, through and through, born and bred.

Yeah, thank you for saying that.