Colin Klein

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462 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2016 last heard Jan 2016

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Uh and he actually his picture is very much a kind of almost as you describe, a kind of inhibitory one.
So he thinks that's the primary role of pain.
Um and I like that and I think that's very important.
And you know, I argue in the book that that recuperation phase me to this sort of primary biological importance of pain.
And in my in earlier versions in defending the imperative theory, so for example my two thousand seven paper, I actually did put in in terms of what I called prescription commands.
So it's commands that rule out certain kinds of movement.
Um I did that for a couple of reasons.
Partly I thought I needed it to solve the problem of pain asymbolia, which we may talk about a bit later, or morphine pain at the time.
Uh but I and also but I think it's a you know it's a very relatively clean way to do it.
Um
Unfortunately, there are a lot of counter or what appear to be counterexamples that you know I had a story about, uh, but I think putting in terms of positive protection makes for a cleaner story.
Uh so Mauro Timolti, I think, was the first person to really call my attention to a lot of these.
So particularly visceral pain, so menstrual cramps or kidney stones.
These are parts of your body where uh you don't have any voluntary control over them.
So it's hard to see what the command don't do something with this could do.
I I did have a story about that, but I think it's um protection is cleaner for a lot of those.
The other problem, I mean
the some most you know, Newton had his apple and I, you know, ran into the corner of a table with my testicles one night, uh, going to the kitchen, uh and, you know, as one does, doubled over and there's sort of particular guarding motion uh that people should be familiar with.
And
Reflecting upon that in the light of day, I thought, well, there are actually a lot of things that seem like adaptive things to do with pain that do involve some more positive motions.
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