Colin Tobin

We lost badly in Ballybalan.

Sure, I accept that.

But I didn't accept it as failure.

I accepted it as a bump in the road, whereas he kind of said, no, I'm good now with this entrepreneur rubbish.

And then the three businesses that he was offered after he had no interest in and they did very, very, very, very well and are doing very, very well to this day.

I don't think so, no.

Do you know what?

Even though it was a failure, it was a big lesson, a big learning curve, you know?

Yeah.

Can I give you a quick anecdote first on a funny story talking about losses?

We said I was selling T-shirts in Blackpool.

Basically...

that year cork were in the all iron final cork were in the all iron final and it was a replay so twice so we were down in Blackpool a couple of days before the final and if you could put a cork crest on it now people were buying it we made a fortune nuts right absolute nuts

2013 was it 2013 yeah exactly we'd all t-shirts now what's that a girl's name all that kind of stuff and then when we heard there was a replay we were like fantastic Little Mix were in the marquee and we done t-shirt every child that was coming Little Mix Little Mix Little Mix unbelievable

And then we said, do you know who's in a completely different demographic?

Do you know who's in the marquee next week?

Elton John was in the marquee.

And you might think, you know, anyone would have known that.

We printed about 400 t-shirts.

And we went off down to the marquee and we were standing at corners and we thought...