Colman Noctor

People struggle with that.

But an increased awareness of how we can help people and be more patient with them and maybe understand things a little bit better from an ADHD perspective could only be a good thing, I would imagine.

But again, I say this again, I never wanted to have these conversations because I don't know whether there's any way of saying it without sounding like a...

Bit of an arse in some ways.

Send them to me, Colman.

Send them to me.

No, no.

So we would oftentimes meet when someone would come first, the parent and the young person together.

And then I'd get the parent to tell me their experience of why they believe that child is there.

And that can be an uncomfortable experience because the kid is kind of eye rolling at things that they're saying or disagreeing or whatever.

And then I would, the parents would leave and then I'd say, speak to the young person and say...

What parts of that account would you agree with or disagree with?

It gives them a kind of a template to go at it.

If you ask the young person by themselves why you're here, you get very little.

But if they have the template of their parents,

account, they can say, well, she said that, but that's not true.

I'd never do that.

Or she says that happens all the time.

It happened twice.

So you get that.