Conrad Flynn

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Remember you mentioned, you heard it here first.

So one of the challenges of this conversation is kind of where to begin and what's the narrative spine and how do you explain something that's this pervasive, complex, and basically so rarely explained.

So maybe we start with just a very straightforward explanation of who Nick Land is.

You've referred to him twice.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes, he has said that.

He said that 10 years ago in an interview, and he's said similar things every year since.

But Elon is or was trying to sound the alarm on that.

Nick Land is...

So are these, so people take ketamine and they all have the same vision?