Conrad Flynn

So when I read that- Yes, when you die at 27-

of self-inflicted wounds, as famously so many of them did, that's not like a sign that you're on the right path, right?

So that's- Yeah, I, of course, have literally no idea what you're talking about.

So when Aleister Crowley's secretary says, of course, rock and roll is demonic, basically, I mean, you've got the horseshoe effect here.

So here you have Aleister Crowley, like famous Satanist.

Yeah, well, that, you know, Satanist is my description.

Right, right.

But it seems obvious to me.

But whatever, a guy who's, like, worshiping demons.

Heavily, yeah, heavily into the cult.

When his secretary says rock and roll is demonic, agreeing with, like, every, you know, the famous Baptist pastor.

I guess it all was very obvious, right?

Like, yeah, it actually did infect America with some kind of incurable spiritual cancer that led to where we are now.

Every story.

I mean, especially war, which I have covered in person and certainly talked a lot about over the years.

I, I just saw it as a product, you know, the sort of failure of statecraft and like, you know, nations act rationally, you know, one country wants this territory either to conquer or to reclaim it.

And this country just want to give it up.

And so they have a war over it.

You know, that's, I had a very secular understanding of that.

war and it was the first world war that changed my view probably 15 years ago well what would it be 10 years ago so the uh the anniversary of the outbreak of the war 1914 there was this series of symposia in europe on like you know what was that you know it destroyed christian europe and uh for maybe forever and like what i mean the apogee of human civilization was 1913 obviously and then it was really it was destroyed and it never recovered