Cooper Moll
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She gets embroiled.
She gets in the mix with someone who's not just an alcoholic but mentally unstable, is
It has a tenuous grasp on reality at this point and it is getting more intense by the day.
And so I think it is easy for people with distance to take a look at that set of circumstances and say, why don't you just leave?
But there's like you said that you, she felt indebted to a friend.
She wanted to make sure her friend was okay.
And then you start realizing that you've been put in a situation that you actually can't get out of.
And when you come to that realization, it's sometimes, it's usually often too late.
And that reality is something that I think gets glossed over.
It's oftentimes something that we really explore on Betrayal when people are saying, how did you not know?
Or why did this person make that decision?
People really come at the decision making's
of these subjects and I feel like what's more important is to understand that these decisions are being made in survival mode.
She doesn't really understand what her options are.
She feels like there's very little options and so it's less about meaning making but more about
It's in those moments of decisions that I think you can really see a human and it feels like a human story as opposed to something that's like kind of watered down.
or distilled for the sake of like the audience right like let's make this digestible for somebody else to understand but the reality is is that people make decisions all the time that we don't understand and unfortunately she got in a situation where she was with someone who um was really mentally ill and then ended up taking people's lives
How did you hold space for both Margo's perspective, Tanya's perspective, and the victims and the victims' families of this case?
Because that must have been really hard.
Um, that's tragic.