Courtney Harrell (Host)

How do you all talk to each other about that? What do you say to each other?

How do you all talk to each other about that? What do you say to each other?

How do you all talk to each other about that? What do you say to each other?

If the job is paying so far below what you need to meet your basic needs, what is keeping you in this job?

If the job is paying so far below what you need to meet your basic needs, what is keeping you in this job?

If the job is paying so far below what you need to meet your basic needs, what is keeping you in this job?

Are there other jobs besides trucking that you could imagine having more stability in?

Are there other jobs besides trucking that you could imagine having more stability in?

Are there other jobs besides trucking that you could imagine having more stability in?

We talked before about the freedom you would feel on the road.

We talked before about the freedom you would feel on the road.

We talked before about the freedom you would feel on the road.

When you're talking about your long-term future that you are imagining for yourself, your dream of this land, does that include trucking? Or is your long-term dream leaving trucking behind?

When you're talking about your long-term future that you are imagining for yourself, your dream of this land, does that include trucking? Or is your long-term dream leaving trucking behind?

When you're talking about your long-term future that you are imagining for yourself, your dream of this land, does that include trucking? Or is your long-term dream leaving trucking behind?

In the weeks after recording the episode, Maxine was still living in her truck and saving money towards the future. But she did get one piece of good news. Her company is getting her a newer truck. Thank you to Alex Leslie at the American Transportation Research Institute and Steve Vasselli. They both helped us understand the trucking industry for this episode.

In the weeks after recording the episode, Maxine was still living in her truck and saving money towards the future. But she did get one piece of good news. Her company is getting her a newer truck. Thank you to Alex Leslie at the American Transportation Research Institute and Steve Vasselli. They both helped us understand the trucking industry for this episode.

In the weeks after recording the episode, Maxine was still living in her truck and saving money towards the future. But she did get one piece of good news. Her company is getting her a newer truck. Thank you to Alex Leslie at the American Transportation Research Institute and Steve Vasselli. They both helped us understand the trucking industry for this episode.

If you want to know more, check out Steve's book, The Big Rig, Trucking and the Decline of the American Dream. What we spend is an Odyssey original podcast. It's written and hosted by me, Courtney Harrell. Our producers are Margot Gray and Kristen Torres. Our editor is Jonathan Menjivar. Our executive producers are Maddy Sprung-Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis.

If you want to know more, check out Steve's book, The Big Rig, Trucking and the Decline of the American Dream. What we spend is an Odyssey original podcast. It's written and hosted by me, Courtney Harrell. Our producers are Margot Gray and Kristen Torres. Our editor is Jonathan Menjivar. Our executive producers are Maddy Sprung-Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis.