Craig Mazin

Her plan is go to Seattle, kill Abby. That's it.

Her plan is go to Seattle, kill Abby. That's it.

Exactly. We make sure people understand how formidable Dina is and how smart she is and how, in fact, Ellie will need her to survive. But we also can see this interesting thread beginning here that started in episode one. Where Ellie has more than a little bit of a crush on Dina, even saying, we'll share a horse, you can see Ellie's heart skip a beat or two.

Exactly. We make sure people understand how formidable Dina is and how smart she is and how, in fact, Ellie will need her to survive. But we also can see this interesting thread beginning here that started in episode one. Where Ellie has more than a little bit of a crush on Dina, even saying, we'll share a horse, you can see Ellie's heart skip a beat or two.

There is something exciting about the thought of her being able to do this specifically with Dina.

There is something exciting about the thought of her being able to do this specifically with Dina.

I guess they are. They're 19. Yeah.

I guess they are. They're 19. Yeah.

There's, to me, a fascinating moment where he puts out his hand. To shake. And she doesn't like him. Even after his defense of Joel and the town meeting, she's not going to forgive this guy. But then he's done this thing to help them. He puts his hand out and there is a pause. And then she puts her hand out and they shake their hands in this kind of classic masculine, you know, concession.

There's, to me, a fascinating moment where he puts out his hand. To shake. And she doesn't like him. Even after his defense of Joel and the town meeting, she's not going to forgive this guy. But then he's done this thing to help them. He puts his hand out and there is a pause. And then she puts her hand out and they shake their hands in this kind of classic masculine, you know, concession.

And I think of it as concession. And this is interesting because... Ellie is an us or them, black and white, good and bad, me and you sort of person. And Seth has screwed that up. And I think she's very conflicted here. It is that weird thing of thinking you are them and then suddenly, but you look a whole lot like us. So what does this say about me?

And I think of it as concession. And this is interesting because... Ellie is an us or them, black and white, good and bad, me and you sort of person. And Seth has screwed that up. And I think she's very conflicted here. It is that weird thing of thinking you are them and then suddenly, but you look a whole lot like us. So what does this say about me?

I think they picked that spot because it was beautiful. They live in an unpopulated Wyoming, which, by the way, currently is barely populated. Wyoming is the least populated state in our nation. It's got the most, I think other than Alaska, it's got the most space per person. So there's a lot of land there. And they can choose.

I think they picked that spot because it was beautiful. They live in an unpopulated Wyoming, which, by the way, currently is barely populated. Wyoming is the least populated state in our nation. It's got the most, I think other than Alaska, it's got the most space per person. So there's a lot of land there. And they can choose.

And I think that they don't want to have a graveyard inside their fences. I think they want to use that space carefully. And I think so many people die in this world so often that the inside of your town will slowly become all cemetery. So you don't want to ride over this every time you go out on patrol. You want to pick someplace that feels safe. sun-kissed and warm and beloved by God above.

And I think that they don't want to have a graveyard inside their fences. I think they want to use that space carefully. And I think so many people die in this world so often that the inside of your town will slowly become all cemetery. So you don't want to ride over this every time you go out on patrol. You want to pick someplace that feels safe. sun-kissed and warm and beloved by God above.

Yes, and let's keep death out.

Yes, and let's keep death out.

This is a chance for all of us to say goodbye. I think as viewers, we are pretty much where Ellie is. I think people have been hopefully looking forward to this episode, but it's been a rough week since what happened. And when it begins, we're all in that space of just ripped up. And by this point, my hope is that everybody can kind of be where Ellie is, which is to say heartbroken,

This is a chance for all of us to say goodbye. I think as viewers, we are pretty much where Ellie is. I think people have been hopefully looking forward to this episode, but it's been a rough week since what happened. And when it begins, we're all in that space of just ripped up. And by this point, my hope is that everybody can kind of be where Ellie is, which is to say heartbroken,