Craig Mazin
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but quietly and calmly saying goodbye on our way to avenging him. And I love the idea of coffee beans because she doesn't like coffee. She thinks it tastes like burnt shit. And she never got it. This was for him. This was a him thing. And the smile that Bella does there that turns into this It's different. It's not screaming. It's not crying anymore.
but quietly and calmly saying goodbye on our way to avenging him. And I love the idea of coffee beans because she doesn't like coffee. She thinks it tastes like burnt shit. And she never got it. This was for him. This was a him thing. And the smile that Bella does there that turns into this It's different. It's not screaming. It's not crying anymore.
There's tears in her eyes, but they're not rolling anymore. This is the next level of grief. This is the long pain, the long ache, not the acute misery. And she does still put her hand on that dirt because I think it's so beautiful. And then we all get to say goodbye to him. And I thought it was important to honor him. You know, we love Joel. And it hurt all of us.
There's tears in her eyes, but they're not rolling anymore. This is the next level of grief. This is the long pain, the long ache, not the acute misery. And she does still put her hand on that dirt because I think it's so beautiful. And then we all get to say goodbye to him. And I thought it was important to honor him. You know, we love Joel. And it hurt all of us.
Sometimes stories go this way where you create heartache on the journey of narrative to arrive somewhere that is hopefully better or healed or meaningful.
Sometimes stories go this way where you create heartache on the journey of narrative to arrive somewhere that is hopefully better or healed or meaningful.
Dina is engaging in behavior that I would describe as tricky and a little manipulative. Dina says, who are you taking to the dance? You should take Kat. You know what? You don't want to take Kat? Come with me. It'll be fine. We'll have fun as friends. Then she's at the dance, high as a kite, and essentially seduces Ellie and kisses her in front of everyone.
Dina is engaging in behavior that I would describe as tricky and a little manipulative. Dina says, who are you taking to the dance? You should take Kat. You know what? You don't want to take Kat? Come with me. It'll be fine. We'll have fun as friends. Then she's at the dance, high as a kite, and essentially seduces Ellie and kisses her in front of everyone.
And when we see them together in this tent, sleeping together, although, you know, side by side for the first time, there's this additional level of teasing and trickiness. And the question is, why is Dina doing this? Why is she asking, rate my kiss? Why is she saying, well, I'm not gay, you are. And then why does she say at the end, I wasn't that high? All of this Weird mindfuck behavior.
And when we see them together in this tent, sleeping together, although, you know, side by side for the first time, there's this additional level of teasing and trickiness. And the question is, why is Dina doing this? Why is she asking, rate my kiss? Why is she saying, well, I'm not gay, you are. And then why does she say at the end, I wasn't that high? All of this Weird mindfuck behavior.
Am I allowed to say mindfuck on this? You just did. It's great. This mindfuck behavior should be, I think, frustrating for everyone to watch. It's definitely frustrating for Ellie. Where do I stand with her and what is her deal? For people who have played the game, the relationship changes in a different way and much earlier. So there may be right now some consternation.
Am I allowed to say mindfuck on this? You just did. It's great. This mindfuck behavior should be, I think, frustrating for everyone to watch. It's definitely frustrating for Ellie. Where do I stand with her and what is her deal? For people who have played the game, the relationship changes in a different way and much earlier. So there may be right now some consternation.
And it's well-learned consternation because it's funny. Sometimes you write these things and you think, I don't like what you just did. I don't think I like what Dina is doing here. But my hope is that there will be some sort of explanation and perhaps some additional level of honesty yet to come.
And it's well-learned consternation because it's funny. Sometimes you write these things and you think, I don't like what you just did. I don't think I like what Dina is doing here. But my hope is that there will be some sort of explanation and perhaps some additional level of honesty yet to come.
The first one is too fucked up.
The first one is too fucked up.
Well... What I find interesting, and this conversation was drawn from the game, I loved how two 19-year-olds having a chat. 19-year-olds now, tell me the first time you kissed somebody. What was your first kiss? They get to say, who's the first person you killed? Not, have you killed a person? And they're not talking about infected. This is sort of something that everybody grows up with.
Well... What I find interesting, and this conversation was drawn from the game, I loved how two 19-year-olds having a chat. 19-year-olds now, tell me the first time you kissed somebody. What was your first kiss? They get to say, who's the first person you killed? Not, have you killed a person? And they're not talking about infected. This is sort of something that everybody grows up with.
And so Ellie, yeah, casually tells her about the second one. I think because she's kind of proud of it, it's messed up. What happened is messed up, but she saved Joel's life there. That's what kind of matters. But the other thing that I find so interesting, Ellie doesn't ask Dina about the first person she killed.
And so Ellie, yeah, casually tells her about the second one. I think because she's kind of proud of it, it's messed up. What happened is messed up, but she saved Joel's life there. That's what kind of matters. But the other thing that I find so interesting, Ellie doesn't ask Dina about the first person she killed.