Craig Mazin

And I feel like if someone goes, all right, let's talk about the first person you killed, the natural next question is— No, your turn. Yeah, exactly. And so perhaps that turn will come.

And I feel like if someone goes, all right, let's talk about the first person you killed, the natural next question is— No, your turn. Yeah, exactly. And so perhaps that turn will come.

This is our first view of Seattle, or at least Seattle adjacent. And we meet these people who seem quite kind and quite peaceful. They're refugees. They are leaving a war. They're fleeing a war zone to try and find peace. And they are led by a father and a little girl, which seems very, very familiar. And the way they talk to each other has that kind of true lived-in father-daughter thing.

This is our first view of Seattle, or at least Seattle adjacent. And we meet these people who seem quite kind and quite peaceful. They're refugees. They are leaving a war. They're fleeing a war zone to try and find peace. And they are led by a father and a little girl, which seems very, very familiar. And the way they talk to each other has that kind of true lived-in father-daughter thing.

I mean, Neil always talked about Cormac McCarthy's The Road and how influential that was on The Last of Us. And I remember reading The Road and thinking if there's one thing that Cormac McCarthy got right, and there's about a billion things he got right in that – It's that children never stop asking goddamn questions. It goes on and on and on. Question, question, question, question.

I mean, Neil always talked about Cormac McCarthy's The Road and how influential that was on The Last of Us. And I remember reading The Road and thinking if there's one thing that Cormac McCarthy got right, and there's about a billion things he got right in that – It's that children never stop asking goddamn questions. It goes on and on and on. Question, question, question, question.

And this little girl has that curiosity, and he's doing his best. And I love them. When she gets that hammer, that look of joy, and then in a very fatherly way, the little lesson he gives her, which is, guess what? Hammer's not going to work. Distance. We got to get away from the bad people. And then there is that warning, and he hides with her, and she says, Demons? And he says, Wolves.

And this little girl has that curiosity, and he's doing his best. And I love them. When she gets that hammer, that look of joy, and then in a very fatherly way, the little lesson he gives her, which is, guess what? Hammer's not going to work. Distance. We got to get away from the bad people. And then there is that warning, and he hides with her, and she says, Demons? And he says, Wolves.

Which is almost worse, but what are the demons? And what's going to happen to them? I mean, I don't know about you, but when I meet them, I'm on their side.

Which is almost worse, but what are the demons? And what's going to happen to them? I mean, I don't know about you, but when I meet them, I'm on their side.

I mean, that is a moment from the game that has changed somewhat. I think in the game, you encounter a dead horse and some dead infected possibly, and that smell does it, and here it's this. But it's the same thing, and it is a bit confusing for Dina and for Ellie.

I mean, that is a moment from the game that has changed somewhat. I think in the game, you encounter a dead horse and some dead infected possibly, and that smell does it, and here it's this. But it's the same thing, and it is a bit confusing for Dina and for Ellie.

It almost seems simple. Seattle seems maybe like there are good guys and bad guys. You know, let's see.

It almost seems simple. Seattle seems maybe like there are good guys and bad guys. You know, let's see.

Well, they've been one step ahead in that they understood it was going to happen. I don't think that anyone knew exactly when it would happen.

Well, they've been one step ahead in that they understood it was going to happen. I don't think that anyone knew exactly when it would happen.

That it would happen at all.

That it would happen at all.

Yeah, HBO, the place that made Game of Thrones when Ned Stark gets his head lopped off. I'm still reeling from that. I mean, first of all, let's just all take a big deep breath because that was a lot. The episode is a lot. There is... this massive attack on Jackson, people's lives are in danger. It is absolute mayhem.

Yeah, HBO, the place that made Game of Thrones when Ned Stark gets his head lopped off. I'm still reeling from that. I mean, first of all, let's just all take a big deep breath because that was a lot. The episode is a lot. There is... this massive attack on Jackson, people's lives are in danger. It is absolute mayhem.