Craig Mazin
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And also, there is this brutal moment that ends with Bella both terrifying you and breaking your heart at the same time. And I think it's fair to say that a lot of people, having seen the episode, are a bit shaken, and reasonably so. It is a big thing we've asked the audience to swallow. It is going to upset a lot of people, and that's okay.
And also, there is this brutal moment that ends with Bella both terrifying you and breaking your heart at the same time. And I think it's fair to say that a lot of people, having seen the episode, are a bit shaken, and reasonably so. It is a big thing we've asked the audience to swallow. It is going to upset a lot of people, and that's okay.
And they may be angry about it, and they may be confused about it, and they may be miserable about it, but I'm hoping that for the majority of them, they are going to reconnect now with who's left behind and what happens now. Because what happens now is one unstoppable force meeting another.
And they may be angry about it, and they may be confused about it, and they may be miserable about it, but I'm hoping that for the majority of them, they are going to reconnect now with who's left behind and what happens now. Because what happens now is one unstoppable force meeting another.
Well, the easy part was the source material was correct. I remember playing it and experiencing it and feeling horrible. But there is that difference between experiencing something and feeling horrible because you loved somebody and you're grieving for the loss of that person. And you're shocked that the story would be so dangerous as to kill that person.
Well, the easy part was the source material was correct. I remember playing it and experiencing it and feeling horrible. But there is that difference between experiencing something and feeling horrible because you loved somebody and you're grieving for the loss of that person. And you're shocked that the story would be so dangerous as to kill that person.
And a different response, which is a critical, I don't think that was a good choice. I thought it was a brilliant choice. I thought it was incredibly brave. And I thought it was really smart. Because in the end, you have to take plot armor away at some point.
And a different response, which is a critical, I don't think that was a good choice. I thought it was a brilliant choice. I thought it was incredibly brave. And I thought it was really smart. Because in the end, you have to take plot armor away at some point.
And if you're going to tell a story about consequences, and if you're going to tell a story about a man who does a terrible, terrible thing for the best possible reason there is... then you need the world to provide feedback. And the feedback here is brutality. That's how the world works. So there was never a question that we were going to do this. The real question was when.
And if you're going to tell a story about consequences, and if you're going to tell a story about a man who does a terrible, terrible thing for the best possible reason there is... then you need the world to provide feedback. And the feedback here is brutality. That's how the world works. So there was never a question that we were going to do this. The real question was when.
And we talked about this a lot. And it felt to us like episode one really taught us a lot about where Joel was and what his relationship was like with Ellie. And it doesn't end well. And here we get to episode two and this happens and you feel this double destruction because as far as we know, her relationship with Joel was broken and now she's forced to watch him die.
And we talked about this a lot. And it felt to us like episode one really taught us a lot about where Joel was and what his relationship was like with Ellie. And it doesn't end well. And here we get to episode two and this happens and you feel this double destruction because as far as we know, her relationship with Joel was broken and now she's forced to watch him die.
And it's like a double wound to the heart.
And it's like a double wound to the heart.
And I remember being... I like that, like he was setting you up for like a more interesting second part of that sentence. Clearly this happened.
And I remember being... I like that, like he was setting you up for like a more interesting second part of that sentence. Clearly this happened.
Abby is torn apart by grief. And grief is a very specific thing. Grief is not justice. Grief is not vengeance. Grief is the pain that is left when something that is entwined with you is ripped away. And what's happening here is a cycle where she is trying to keep herself from seeing this thing that is going to make this so much more grievous to her. And she can't.
Abby is torn apart by grief. And grief is a very specific thing. Grief is not justice. Grief is not vengeance. Grief is the pain that is left when something that is entwined with you is ripped away. And what's happening here is a cycle where she is trying to keep herself from seeing this thing that is going to make this so much more grievous to her. And she can't.
And you get the feeling that this is not the first time she's tried to tell herself, don't walk in that room. But what she sees in there is is horrible. When Joel shoots this man in the head, it is not a fun moment to watch. It is not a rooting moment as far as I'm concerned.
And you get the feeling that this is not the first time she's tried to tell herself, don't walk in that room. But what she sees in there is is horrible. When Joel shoots this man in the head, it is not a fun moment to watch. It is not a rooting moment as far as I'm concerned.