Craig Mazin

Would it not be better if I could have somehow figured out how to grow old and be Ellie's grandfatherly figure? Could I not see her become a 50-year-old person? I don't get that because of what I've done. They're all going to pay a price. So the question that we've seeded in here is, How do you win?

Would it not be better if I could have somehow figured out how to grow old and be Ellie's grandfatherly figure? Could I not see her become a 50-year-old person? I don't get that because of what I've done. They're all going to pay a price. So the question that we've seeded in here is, How do you win?

And you know, it's a great point. If she just shoots him and they leave... Ellie gets there too late. She never knows who did it.

And you know, it's a great point. If she just shoots him and they leave... Ellie gets there too late. She never knows who did it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's the hardest moment, is when she's begging him to get up, and he tries.

Yeah. That's the hardest moment, is when she's begging him to get up, and he tries.

That is heartbreaking to me. Heartbreaking. Because that's where you see how pure a parent's love is for a child. And this is something that children don't know. It's not their fault. They just don't know because they haven't experienced it. People say, oh, you know, when you have a kid, you experience this new stuff. And a lot of people are like, I think I can extrapolate. You can't.

That is heartbreaking to me. Heartbreaking. Because that's where you see how pure a parent's love is for a child. And this is something that children don't know. It's not their fault. They just don't know because they haven't experienced it. People say, oh, you know, when you have a kid, you experience this new stuff. And a lot of people are like, I think I can extrapolate. You can't.

You just can't. I couldn't. I didn't know until I knew. And that is pure parental desperate love. He's trying to pick himself up for her, even though he can't even move. And what Bella does here, I mean... It's the full range of things, and it is all brutally heartfelt, in part because I think she and Pedro, too, are very close and are so intertwined, you know, in their own lives.

You just can't. I couldn't. I didn't know until I knew. And that is pure parental desperate love. He's trying to pick himself up for her, even though he can't even move. And what Bella does here, I mean... It's the full range of things, and it is all brutally heartfelt, in part because I think she and Pedro, too, are very close and are so intertwined, you know, in their own lives.

Pedro said this beautiful thing to Bella when we were wrapping season one. He said, you know, it's so strange how this life-changing thing came along so late for me and so early for you. But they share it. So a lot of this is overlapped, I think, with who they are as people, too. I remember we walked over, Marc Mylad and I walked over. We're sitting on the floor with Bella.

Pedro said this beautiful thing to Bella when we were wrapping season one. He said, you know, it's so strange how this life-changing thing came along so late for me and so early for you. But they share it. So a lot of this is overlapped, I think, with who they are as people, too. I remember we walked over, Marc Mylad and I walked over. We're sitting on the floor with Bella.

And we said, listen, there's this moment where you're going to have to shift from the most brutal grief to savagery. We want you to terrify us with the resolve that you have to murder these people. Because Ellie has this catalytic change from fear and grief to anger that is so rapid and so frightening. And she does it.

And we said, listen, there's this moment where you're going to have to shift from the most brutal grief to savagery. We want you to terrify us with the resolve that you have to murder these people. Because Ellie has this catalytic change from fear and grief to anger that is so rapid and so frightening. And she does it.

Don't!

Don't!

And when she says, you're all going to fucking die, it is terrifying. I mean, I think they probably should have killed her at that point, but they didn't believe her.

And when she says, you're all going to fucking die, it is terrifying. I mean, I think they probably should have killed her at that point, but they didn't believe her.