Curt Mills
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first heard Jan 2025
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Okay, but there's a tension here. I mean, so first, the relationship between the president of the United States and the prime minister of Israel is extremely unclear.
I don't think maybe only the two of them know. They have disagreed since at least 2020 over the election, but they probably disagreed beforehand over strikes in Iran. The last time you and I spoke publicly was over the Soleimani strike in January of 2020. And since then, reporting in the last five years has come out that the two of them disagreed over that.
Trump felt that the Israelis didn't do their part, etc., etc., etc. So for years, for at least half a decade, the well has been poisoned between Trump and Netanyahu. Doesn't mean the relationship is done. but there's been an atmosphere of mistrust.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think the key thing to understand for your listeners, anyone who's not turning this off because we're getting into the depths of Israeli politics here, but Netanyahu's situation is unstable. Yes. A super majority of Israelis want him out. They want him to resign.
does not want to resign because if he resigns he may go to prison right and also he's been a power uh achiever for 30 years and i've noticed that people who do that often don't like to quit um i think so that's fair yeah okay so he doesn't want to quit for both reasons of his freedom and uh uh you know the way of his life yeah yes okay so pretty recognizable syndrome i would say yes yes not confined to bb it's international
Yes, it is international. Okay, so how does he not quit? It's pretty clear that spectacular circumstances justify his presence. It's very similar, actually. I mean, there's been comparisons between him and Churchill. It's actually fair. Only in wartime can someone like Netanyahu at this point get a position. I get it. But war has to go on. So what war? So they have basically a deal with Hezbollah.
I think it's not... I think that is by far the least likely that they're going to go back in there. There are basically two options. One, once all the hostages are exchanged, then they go back into Gaza. Okay? Or, I guess 1B, is to do the West Bank, which is already going on right now. Or two... What do you mean, do the West Bank?
I mean, what are you doing there? What is the point of the operation? Do you know? To annex the territory and build developments. I mean, this is, this is, I mean, and you know, the unstated thing is that they'll either export these people or eliminate them. And so it's pretty terrifying stuff. It's not light stuff. This is not a light interview.
And so the problem is the US is the military underwriter of this. The Israelis probably can't do this without us selling them weapons. And so while Americans are tuned out and not thinking about this kind of thing, our reputation overseas is one of arms dealer. And over time, that affects your children, being able to travel abroad, that affects America's reputation overseas. It's dicey stuff.
Yeah. Right. Option two is Iran. Yep. Which is, I'll just quote the hardline perspective itself. It's the head of the snake in the conception of the Israeli hardline and also the neoconservative right in the United States. For sure. And so, Israel also can't... do Iran, in my view, and also in general assessments, without the help of the United States.
It's usually joint U.S.-Israeli airstrikes, or even a solo invasion of Iran by the United States is the ultimate sort of fantasy.
I mean, I think there has... Could anyone from the State Department have done what Steve Witkoff did, do you think? No, especially without the president's... Of course not.
No, it's the same. I mean, international relations has been made into, they have to make it into like a pseudoscience. Exactly.
Yeah, just like everything else.
Yeah. And then, you know, it's the same thing of all of academia, which is like people's theses are increasingly more Baroque and like nobody actually knows large things like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or at least... know it in a way that is applicable in power in real life.
And I mean, maybe things are changing now, but like also a lot of the foreign policy establishment, it's different now in the second term, but wouldn't work with the first Trump term, wouldn't work with their team. And I think that was a discredit of the country. I think that just did not serve the country. Well, of course it didn't serve the country.
Millions.
The Iranians backed proxies that killed U.S. troops in the Iraq War. Yeah, of course. But we shouldn't have done the Iraq War.
I think we have been moving towards one. And, you know, I think basically the biggest risk of a Democratic administration is a war with Russia. And the biggest risk of a Republican administration is a war with Iran. So my rule is always that's why it's more ethical to be a Republican, because at least the Iranians don't have nukes yet.
So that's actually like pretty close to my first principle, like just outright. Well, you've simplified it, haven't you, Kurt? Yes, yes. But the Iran war would be still like the worst and like not something that we should pursue. And look, foreign policy experts at this point will chime in on this conversation being like, oh, well, that's just so unrealistic. That's not actually what we want.
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