Curt Weldon
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard 18 Aug
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Two of them died. They're both ex-CIA. Now look, I'm not accusing anybody. All I'm telling you is, stop this bullshit! This is America. Let the people know the truth. There are good people in intelligence, Patrick. I have to say that. I have good friends that do great work for our country, and I respect them.
But there are scumbags that are sitting on big bank accounts that are making big money, and they're making it off the backs of dead soldiers and dead firefighters. I wear this jacket. Because Ray Downey, the chief of the fire department in New York who got vaporized at 9-11, gave it to me in 93.
I will not stop until those 343 firefighters that were vaporized are vindicated, along with the 2,977 other victims and the thousands more that died from our sending troops over to Afghanistan when bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan. This madness has got to stop in this country. It's out of control.
But Tony, you have to tell the story as to what you had done in Afghanistan when Mueller came through. Well, I'm saying so... You have to explain that.
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But if I'm not mistaken, it was under it was under Eric Kleinsmith's.
She did a three-hour interview for my oral history, which has never been released. I'm the only one that has the interview.
The bigger story in the Congress is that I was funding their program as the chairman of the R&D subcommittee. I would go down to Fort Belvoir because all the services were standing up information-dominant centers, the Air Force, the Navy, and the Army, the Army to Fort Belvoir. I was impressed with what they were doing.
They were using software like Starlight and Spires and others that no one else was using. John Hamry was the Deputy Secretary of Defense. I suggested, John, you go down and see what your people are doing. He went down. They'll tell you he went down because of me. He looked at it and he called me and said, Mr. Chairman, you're absolutely right. We need this capability.
Far beyond what the Army is using it for, we need this capability. I proposed establishing a data fusion center that would not just be for the Army or DOD. It would be for the entire government. So John Henry suggested to me, Congressman, I will support and manage it either at the White House or at the Pentagon.
But you've got to convince the FBI and the CIA to allow us to use their raw data because of the big behemoths. There are 33 classified systems. So on November the 4th of 1999, a date I'll never forget, I had John Henry in my office. I had the deputy director of the FBI, the deputy director of the CIA, and I handed them a proposal to create the NOAA. National Operations and Analysis Hub.
Policymaker and warfighter's toll to deal with emerging transnational terrorist threats. I didn't write that. Friends in Intel wrote it for me. John Hamry said it's a great idea. We need it. I'll manage it. I said I'll get it funded. The FBI said it's great. We'll support it. And the CIA said we don't want it. We're doing something called CI-21.
The big question for 9-11 is why did the CIA not want to be a part of a fusion center that the Deputy Secretary of Defense wanted? I was going to fund. FBI was supporting two years before 9-11. The biggest criticism after 9-11 was the lack of fusion of intelligence data. That's what they were doing. And that recommendation was two years prior.
And that recommendation was based on what these folks were doing. Eric, Tony, Eileen Pricer, Scott Philpott, and all the others, J.D. Smith, that were a part of the Able Danger team. That's the big story. And he didn't know about us. I didn't know the details until 9-11. They brought the charts in, and I took them right to the White House.
I didn't get ready for the program. I didn't need to. I knew they were using software to do, you know. So when's the first time you guys met?
Well, you didn't come to me. Yes, I did. No, you didn't. I was funding it through the annual R&D budget. Later, later, later. Yeah, later. And I plussed up their funding, whatever they wanted. But I didn't need to get read in. It wasn't until 9-11 I get these frantic phone calls on my cell phone. From him, from Eileen Pricer, from Scott Philpott, we have to meet you right away.
I meet with them on 9-11, and they roll out the charts. That's the first time I knew that they had identified all the al-Qaeda cells in advance of 9-11. That's when I found out. I took it right down to the White House. To Steve Hadley, I called Rice's deputy. I said, I've got to see you right away. He said, we're under attack. I said, I have to see you. I took Dan Burton with me.
Dan Burton was chairman of the oversight committee, and I took Chris Chase. I rolled out the charts. And Steve Hadley, deputy national security advisor, said to me, where did you get these from? I said, Steve, I've been telling you since you came into office in January that this team was the cutting edge. The Clinton administration ignored it. You didn't take any action on it.
And this is what developed by them. And he said to me, I've got to show this to the man.
The president, George Bush. He said, I've got to show it to the man. They took the charts. And in subsequent questions of Steve Hadley, he's acknowledged that I gave him charts, but he says, I can't remember what those charts were. When I met with Seymour Hersh, Seymour Hearst told me those charts are still on the hard drive at the NSA. That was five years ago.
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