Curtis Yarvin
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And that principle extends sort of around the government.
The funny thing is, I think that's almost the opposite of the truth. It's like, let me give you a very simple illustration of this. Someone I have actually never met, believe it or not, who is Elon Musk. Now, Elon tweeted the other day, he was like, the proper structure of government on Mars should be not just a democracy, but a direct democracy.
Let me sort of examine the thinking behind Musk saying this, because I find it sort of extremely odd in a sense. Like, because one of the things about monarchy that's been known for quite some time, and again, even in very, very anti-monarchical ways, regimes and periods and exception is made for this, is that a ship always has a captain. An airplane always has a captain.
Basically, in any very safety-critical environment... You should have someone in charge. You should have someone in charge. But the thing is, you look at basically a Mars colony, And you're just like, really, are the like the citizens of the Mars colony going to vote on like how to like replenish the oxygen supply or whatever? Like, no, of course not.
The Mars colony that Elon establishes will be a subsidiary of SpaceX and it will have someone in charge and it will have a command hierarchy just like SpaceX does. And so I'm like, Elon, when you say that this should be a democracy, what are the people voting on? And so there's this world of actually real governance that someone like Elon Musk lives in every day.
And actually applying that world, applying that thinking to like, you know, being like, oh, this is, you know, this thinking is directly contradictory, you know, in a sense, to the ideals that I was taught in this society, that's a really difficult cognitive dissonance problem, even if you're Elon Musk.
Monarch is good. It's a neutral term.
And then the monarchs in the age of democracy are just terrible.
Your question is the most important question of all, because basically understanding why Hitler was so bad, why Stalin was so bad, is really essential to the riddle of the 20th century. But I think it's important to note that we don't see for the rest of European and world history, human history as a whole is a mixed bag.
The history of the age of democracy in the last 250 years is also a mixed bag.
A holocaust. You know, you can pull the camera way back and basically say, wow, you know, in Europe, since basically the establishment of European civilization from like 1000 AD to, you know, 1750 AD, we didn't have this kind of chaos and violence. And then you can't separate Hitler and Stalin from the sort of global democratic revolution that they're a part of.
He killed, there was a... Tamerlane was not in Europe. I meant Europe, though.
So I often find, why don't you just scratch a little at some of the historical... There was no massacre of Huguenots. I think you're confusing it with the Sack of Béziers and the massacre of the Alpagentians. So they got massacred, not the Huguenots. Yeah.
But the thing is, when people look at the Holocaust, they saw like a new species of deviltry that had not really existed in the world in that way before. You know, when you see a city sacked in the Middle Ages, you see just like wild, undisciplined troops like raging around. You don't see like lines of people march to their deaths.
There's two more. There's two more.
Let's go. Let's go. Harmony. Let's go. Let's go through each of those examples. And so when you look, for example, at Mandela, the reason I said that most people don't know this. There was a little Contra Thompson when Mandela was released because he actually had to be taken off the terrorist list.
He was in the viciously racist apartheid regime. Basically, they had him on the terrorist list. So if you look at— Let's get to the other two.
Because they're both terrorists and because they basically both violated the rules of war in the same way. And they both basically killed innocent people. We valorize terrorism all the time. This valorization. So Gandhi then is your model.
It's more complicated than that, but I could say things about either. But let's move on to one of your other examples. So I think the best way to basically grapple with that period directly. Which period are we talking about now? 1860s. Okay, yeah. Okay, let's talk about African Americans in the 1860s.
Okay, the thing that you can do that any Times reader can do, just go to your Google Bar and Google slave narratives. Just go and read random slave narratives and get their experience of the time. And so the thing is that basically the treatment of—
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