Daisy Peel

And you can advance from the novice up to the highest levels without ever winning.

And in Europe and the rest of the world, you only can advance

to the next level.

If you win or place, you have to win a few classes or place in more classes to advance.

So it's a pretty, it, it ends up creating a pretty different end result, higher levels.

And it, it places a different emphasis on, um, speed versus consistency and accuracy and those sorts of things.

No, when I started, I lived in Oregon and it was pretty isolated.

So I didn't, I kind of had to, I had a couple of good instructors, but I had to figure a lot of stuff out on my own.

There wasn't online, online education just didn't exist.

There was a little bit later, I latched onto a really good instructor who lived in Ohio or still lives in Ohio.

Her name's Linda Mecklenburg.

And one summer before school started, and I was still on summer break, I drove out to attend a summer camp that she held.

And by the end of the summer camp, I was just begging her to take me on as a student, a long distance student, which involved me recording my training, burning it onto a DVD, mailing her the DVD, and then getting email feedback.

I was pretty committed.

yeah i have a lot of the bay area was a pretty big hot spot i would drive down there for competitions nancy guys nancy guys yeah see this is what uh yeah she was a world team coach for a long long time and before she was the world team coach she was a very successful competitor in her own right um and she was one she's still doing do you know she's still she's still competing she's not coaching anymore but she still competes um and she still teaches yeah

Yeah, because she had something German.

Yeah.

And that was how I found out about, you know, fast forward to just a few years ago, that was how you popped up on my radar because I started looking into Michael Ellis' content and I started getting really interested in bite sport stuff and so I started watching people like Michael Ellis and watching people like you because I had a couple of, my dogs were pretty young at the time, my current dogs, they were

too and i really liked the um i really liked the commitment to toy play that the bite sport people have where um there seems to be a much more much more committed to building motivation and engagement and and structured toy play and the structure yeah yeah before you start teaching behaviors and in the agility world there's this big rush to kind of one-up

everybody by showing off all of the behaviors that your little itty bitty puppy has learned, all the tricks.