Damian Hughes

I think, you know, we often don't appreciate what we've got until it's gone.

And I think there's so many of that generation have passed away now.

So to be able to speak to somebody that's still so candid and

And so crystal clear in his reminiscences was just a privilege for us.

You know, we're talking 80 years ago when he's still able to describe the terrifying experiences that he must have felt in the cockpit.

Well, you went down to Woking to chat with Oscar.

How did you find him off the mic as well as on it?

Yeah.

And what in particular do you feel that that experience gives him that manifests as a competitive advantage on the track?

Oh, yeah.

I've absolutely loved watching the London Marathon this weekend.

And Sebastian Sawe, you know, the guy that's just gone under two hours in the men's race for the first time in the history of that.

What I'm particularly interested in is, you know, like the old start that people tell you when Roger Bannister...

Broke the four-minute mile and then in the 18 months after that, I think the four-minute mile got lowered 37 times in the immediate months.

I'm interested to see what will happen now that in the men's race somebody's proven you can break the two-hour barrier.

I'll be watching closely.

Well, Bjorn Mansverk is a fighter pilot, an Norwegian fighter pilot, that is one of the brains behind the incredible rise of Bodo Glimt.

If you've followed them in European competition, you've seen them defeat...

Atletico Madrid into Milan even Manchester City earlier this year and you've wondered how a small town in the north of Norway is able to punch well above its weight Bjorn Bjorn has got some of the answers to it the one thing I want to tell you about is that he was behind the decision that they don't talk about winning

In that dressing room, they don't talk about winning.