Damien Hughes

And he asked three questions that I think are really powerful.

Who am I?

What do I want?

And how do I want to get there?

And what comes out of the process has been proven to win numerous Grand Slams.

There's also a nice moment where he asks you a question.

So if we use the example then, because there's a very clear before and after with this word expectation in the world of Ash Barty, would you describe your work with us?

And we'll start, if you wouldn't mind, Ben, telling us about that collapse at the French Open.

What did you see happen?

I'm intrigued by the A-game words that you described.

Thank you for explaining it.

But can we go back to question number one?

Because you talk about this idea in your brilliant book about separating what you do from who you are.

Why do so many of us find that such a difficult thing to uncouple?

Which sort of leads me into, there's two brilliant stories in your book I'd like you to recount for us, if you don't mind, that sort of captures that essence of focusing on the intrinsic rather than the extrinsic.

Tell us about Roger Federer and then tell us about Steph Gilmore.

Brilliant.

I love that word.

Neoteny.

So would you just explain for people that are not familiar with Steph, just who she is and her incredible achievements, Ben?