Damien McCarthy

I mean, bullying and harassment is in the toxic zone.

It shouldn't be tolerated.

Yes, yeah, absolutely.

And document it.

And that's very important.

Document conversations and timeframes.

Because you've crossed the line when you move into that type of behaviour.

But very often, as I said, bad bosses, if they're not trained properly, and I would doubt that that manager was trained.

And there's pressure coming down from the top.

Well, look, Matt, I suppose, and good afternoon, Richard, as well.

I suppose, floating the idea of, you know, more days off, you know, public holidays, it will always be received positively.

Yes, there is EU countries with higher numbers than us, but regards to the league table, I suppose you're not comparing like for like.

So if you take Spain, who may have 14 days or something like that, and we have 10, okay, we're behind them on the league table, but all 10 days are covered under the Organization of Working Act in Ireland.

So you're paid for all 10 days, or you get a day in lieu, or you get double time if you go into work on the public holiday.

In Spain, it could fall on a Saturday or Sunday.

So you're not getting paid for all 14 public holidays in Spain.

So you're kind of comparing apples and oranges there.

The other thing that I would say is that we need to be very sensible if we're going to add additional public holidays, because the last one we introduced in 2023, which was the early February public holiday in its first year that lost the economy 355

million euros.

So every employer and every worker in the country who pays their tax and the employees who see tax money going out of their paycheck and their payslip every week now have a February public holiday where they stay at home from work, get paid maybe from their SME employer, another added cost to the SME employer.