Dan Carlin

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And it seems like the perfect kind of arrangement if you're trying to save your skin from heavy-duty punishment by the great king and at the same time not be punished by Alexander.
They essentially do what the great Voldemar Heckel says is a neutrality proposal.
How about we let you go into the city and use the harbor and let the great king do that too?
Alexander just says, go back in your city and prepare to be assaulted.
Now, Arian has a story that he tells that's supposed to happen right before Alexander meets with this representative of the city leaders.
And, of course, it involves one of those discussions with his top general, his marshal, Parmenio.
And we've seen this movie before, haven't we, where he and Parmenio disagree over what to do.
at the battle of the granicus remember parmenio told alexander to wait according to arian anyway and alexander said we can't wait and full steam ahead now the positions are inexplicably reversed or maybe completely understandably reversed depending on how you want to look at it but parmenio tells alexander he should be fighting a naval battle and alexander says no
bit of role reversal there, but here's the way Arian puts it in the Aubrey de Selincourt translation of his work, quote,
the Persians had about 400 ships.
But Parmenio, in spite of their numerical superiority, urged Alexander to engage.
He did, undoubtedly, believe that a sea fight would go in favor of the Greeks.
But the real reason for his confidence was a sign from heaven, an eagle which had been seen on the beach just astern of Alexander's ships, end quote.
I love this because this is why we all love ancient history, right?
But
As we'd said earlier, these sources are so long ago, even though they're a long time after Alexander, that they still all kind of believe this stuff.
So this is a legitimate argumentative point for Parmenio to make as far as Arian's concerned.
He saw an eagle, man.
What do you want him to do?
But there are some practical realities, too.
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