Dan Cleary

So it's not just like they're going in willy nilly.

Some of it, of course, I mean, just these are huge, huge facilities that are, they're secret, they're secret bases.

So of course you, you're not going to be able to just like go walk or actually didn't they say that when Burleson went to Pax river, he wasn't, uh, guided.

He was just like, yeah, allowed to walk around.

um no but she's fairly unlikely but again i mean that's something that jeremy said like he goes that he goes it it really might happen just so you know it might happen and he believes that uh if burleson does find that he is confident that that he will let the world know what he what he found

Yeah, and for me, I'm the kind of guy where even if they're shitty, I want to see everything.

I want to see everything.

I don't care.

I don't care how grainy it is.

I don't care how far away it is.

I don't care what it is.

I want to see it.

But I think you're right.

if there's two or three in that group that are uh makes you kind of stop and hmm that's interesting that's that's good and it just it'll keep things moving but um we're definitely not getting i don't think we're getting the stuff that we hope for and the stuff that we all know exists which is completely clear unambiguous proof of you know non-human intelligent craft doing crazy things in our atmosphere

Uh, that was interesting.

Um, because we get a lot of whispers about McCasland and a lot of it just comes from his connection to the Tom DeLonge and the leak.

That's the only reason that we really know about like who he is.

And, uh, you see a lot of people online talking about how he was, you know, read into these programs and he was very knowledgeable, uh,

but to have it somewhat uh i feel like confirmed by grush kind of elevates that story to me a bit and makes it more interesting i still personally believe that i think he took his own life that's where i'm at until i find out otherwise um but i guess the truth is he is missing and the fact that uh grush is concerned about that definitely makes it um

more fascinating and a deeper story and and now i really want to know more about mccaslin's background and and the kind of stuff he was privy to yeah uh definitely elevates that story