Dan Epps

Uh, it was argued, you know, nine days ago at the court.

And then Hamani, uh, is, is not actually, uh, totally fully briefed yet.

Um, I think the reply brief still has yet to come in and it's going to be argued.

I think it's going to be argued at the, by the end of the term.

Yeah, for sure.

Okay, so should we go kind of in chronological order?

Because the cases are pretty different, presenting different Second Amendment issues, but I think both quite interesting.

So should we go with Wolford first?

Yeah, let's start with Wolford.

Okay, do you want to lay out the issues in Wolford for us?

We're still figuring out the exact contours of that right.

Yeah, new laws restricting them in certain ways.

I think we should be careful in how we describe it because at least in this case, everybody seems to agree that there is a rule that on private property, a property owner can deny consent for the carrying of firearms.

Right.

And just at the outset, I mean, that is the way the case is being framed and litigated.

Do you think that is a firmly settled principle such that, you know, Texas or Florida could not overrule it?

Just say a rule that you always get to carry your firearms, whatever the private property owner wants or says.

Yeah, I think in the briefs they talk about, they mention a Florida law where it says you can at least store your handgun in your vehicle at your, you know, at your place of employment.

But I wonder, I mean, would it violate some kind of, you know,

Do you have such stickers on your laptop?