Dan Harris

It's just you can do it wherever you are at any time of dropping into your senses and out of your thoughts.

this can have many, many salutary psychological consequences.

As a rough summary, am I in the neighborhood?

So you're saying there's a difference between sense foraging and quote unquote, dropping into the body generally.

No, it was great.

Let me see if I can, let me just be the dummy here and see if I can restate it in ways that might approximate accuracy.

I think what you're saying is that

The problem comes when we are cut off from our body, from our senses.

And it's the problem isn't having sad or depressive thoughts.

It's that there's no release valve when we're completely disconnected from our senses.

So part of your thesis here is that there's, I think you call sensation the

chaotic counterbalance or counterweight to the certainty, the habitual judgments of the default mode network.

And chaos doesn't necessarily carry a positive connotation, but you really mean it in a positive way here that you said something quite poetic earlier, Norm, that

In the default mode network, it's kind of us as an isolated ego trying to control the world.

In the sensory mode, we're letting the world change us.

And so that is this kind of beneficent chaos that you're trying to get us to open up to because then we're not so stuck in our inner asshole.

Zindel, what's going on in your head?

You talk about radical acceptance or accepting turmoil.

Can you describe what you mean by that and how it's relevant to everything we've been discussing up until this point?

And does radical acceptance happen in sense foraging?