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Dan Ivascyn

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The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

I say it respectfully, but it's not super exciting, the Bloomberg aggregate index.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

And you're at near a 5% type return.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

You buy a bunch of other high-quality paper, give up some liquidity.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

You're at a 7% or 8% yield.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

95-ish percent correlation between starting yield and five-year forward returns.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

That's right.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Then it could go up or down based on trading strategies along the way.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Right, right.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Hopefully, it's a little bit higher than that.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

But simplistically, if you don't want to give any benefit to the active pieceβ€”

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

That's what you earn.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

So going back a few years ago when yields on that index were 2%.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Right.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

What did you expect?

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

And we ended up with 22 is back.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

It can all happen at once, just like stocks.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

People show me that chart.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Well, what does it mean?

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Well, it could mean that equities just disappoint slowly.

The Compound and Friends
How Pimco is Preparing for the Next Capital Loss Cycle with Dan Ivascyn

Yeah.