Dan Jørgensen

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The Rest Is Politics · 547. The Truth About Russian Oil, Net Zero, and North Sea Drilling · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

And with energy, I mean fossil energy.

That's obviously an issue where we disagree because we think that that's the wrong way to go.

So, certainly for us, I mean, even again, if there was no such thing as climate change, which of course I think is the most important issue that we're dealing with, but even if there wasn't, still for us, it's much more wise to not become a petro state like the US, but an electro state like China is getting close to being now.

Again, if you look even in the US at what is actually going on in many of the individual states, many of them are actually continuing to deploy more renewables because it's fast and it's cheap.

And we need to also look at the fact that, yes, one of the reasons why the bill can sometimes be a little bit higher than what

or sometimes much higher than we would want is transmission cost, and they are related to us having to expand our grids.

And you can then say, well, why don't we just then use the existing fossil infrastructure?

Well, that will not be enough either.

So there's no way around us.

If we want to use more energy, which we need to because we will have data centers and we will become richer and our economies will grow,

And even if we deploy more energy efficiency, still we will need more energy.

So the question is not really, do we need to invest?

We need to invest.

The question is, what do you want to invest in?

Do you want to invest in what is cheapest?

Yes.

Big companies, even in the US, do this, even in Texas.

Or do we want to, for political reasons, say, no, we think a fossil way of doing this is better?

Yeah, so normally, actually, I would answer that question by giving you yet another long speech of why this is cheaper and why it's healthy economy and why it's necessary for our security.

But I think I would actually use the opportunity to speak about climate change instead, because today is going to be one of the hottest days probably ever recorded here in the UK.

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