Dan Jørgensen

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The Rest Is Politics · 547. The Truth About Russian Oil, Net Zero, and North Sea Drilling · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

Well, it can be if it's the wrong type of energy and if it's just used once.

But if it's renewable energy and it's used first to cool down the data center, and then the excess heat from that process is used to warm up or cool down thousands of homes, which we've seen good examples on in many member states in the European Union.

Then, in fact, these data centers becomes a part of our energy system that's useful instead of the opposite.

I've worked with this all my adult life, so 20 years, and it's only the last five, maybe 10 years that I've myself begun to see, okay, this is probably the biggest challenge we have.

If we actually succeed in doing what we want, which is to get more renewables and electrify more, if we don't have the grid capacity, if we don't have these connections, then it simply will not happen.

And right now, we are then hit by an extra challenge,

This would be a challenge even if there was not a single data center in the EU.

But we are hit by the actual challenge that these data centers are coming at a speed and at a magnitude that nobody could have foreseen.

So we couldn't have foreseen that, I will say.

But of course, now it's here.

This is the future.

What to do?

Well, we are negotiating right now and hopefully at the end of this week, the European Council of Ministers will...

adopt a general approach that hopefully supports a proposal that we in the commission have put forward, that I put forward, which is to do a number of things.

One is we need better planning.

So today it's like, so 27 member states trying to be a union on energy, but in fact, it's like 27 different people making a jigsaw puzzle without looking at the picture on the box.

Yeah.

Because there is no collective plan.

There is no European wide scenario.

So I'm asking for member states to give the power to the European Commission to actually draw up a plan for Europe.

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