Dan Jørgensen

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The Rest Is Politics · 547. The Truth About Russian Oil, Net Zero, and North Sea Drilling · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

And some parts of industry have argued that that is making it difficult for them to compete.

Now, I will counter argue to that.

Well, listen, friends, there's no way around this.

We're not neglecting your difficulties.

But if we do not move away from fossils, then you will be vulnerable every year in all of eternity for price shocks like the one we are experiencing right now.

And if we look at even just the short term or medium term, does anybody think that we're looking into a more stable world the next five or 10 years?

Unfortunately not.

I wish we were, but we probably are not.

So using all of the economic instruments, financial, political instruments that you can to really help this transition is what we need to do.

Now, in Europe, when you see, for instance, a very famous example is the yellow jerseys demonstrations on the streets of Paris because of attacks on fossil fuel.

That was an example, I don't think, of people arguing against doing something to fight climate change.

This was because they didn't want their expenses to go up.

Or another example, the home country of Greta Thunberg, Sweden, in the last election, the young population voted primarily for right-wing party, not because of immigration, as you might think, but because of this question of tax on fuels.

So I do acknowledge that even...

populations who want to fight climate change, if it hurts their own wallets, then they will tend to maybe care more about the wallets than the climate, which is, that's just the way it is.

So we need to take that into consideration and also use policies to alleviate that and make the incentives, right?

That's also why

earlier when I tried to explain what is it that constitutes an electricity bill or an energy bill, really it's up to politicians and that could maybe where we agree, Rory, although we also disagree on issues, maybe we can agree that if politicians meant this, decision makers like myself, so I'm also responsible, but if we really meant this,

and took it very, very, very seriously, and it was the most serious thing for us to deal with, then we could do stuff tomorrow because we could lower taxes on electricity.

We could invest even more in our grids.

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