Dan Lawrence

If their sleep-wake cycle is all over the place, i.e.

some days they'll wake up at 6 a.m., some days they'll wake up at 10 a.m., some evenings they'll go to bed at 9 p.m., some evenings they'll go to bed at 2 a.m., which can absolutely happen with a lot of people.

Well, again, if we're looking at the hormonal response, that's going to massively impact testosterone because they haven't got a natural solidified sleep-wake cycle.

So that would be step one.

Simple system around sleep-wake time.

Try and pick a set time of when you go to bed and when you wake up each and every day.

How do we go a step further than that?

Well, we look at the objectivity of aura or whoop to then monitor that and just see if

where their HRV is at so that's one clear metric that we can look at you know yes of course we can get the bloods done but we're not going to get the bloods done you know every single month to check these biomarkers we likely do that over a 12 month time horizon baseline testing month 6 month 12 what we can do throughout the journey is start looking at things like whoop and aura to see the HRV to you know to assess that because then we likely know that if all these markers are on the rise likely that's going to then impact testosterone and we can of course have subjective markers there around testosterone to say

Wow, libido is now great.

My energy levels are much better.

So all of these things.

So that would be step one, natural sleep-wake cycle.

Start with that without doubt.

Then we can look at, okay, what leads into optimizing the sleep environment?

We know the number one recovery tool, Charles, that costs absolutely nothing is sleep.

So how do we then say, how do we improve that?

For me to say to you, Charles, you've got to sleep more.

Cheers, Dan.

You may be the high performance guy.