Dan Le Batard

And you've just spent 10 minutes talking to Jared from Subway about the footlong and ham and just nonsense.

And finally, we get to a question to Ryan Howard, and he never gets to answer it.

Right.

The question of like, what does it mean to be different from what everyone else is doing?

And why is that race one that no one else seems to want to run?

It comes at the cost of guest bookers don't want to send the celebrities to Dan anymore because he's going to with them.

In my case, yeah, I will say that booking guests for my show has become a bit of a dance of like us trying to explain we don't just try to do the thing of investigating everybody.

Some people we just want to have a, we want to hang with because we respect and like their work and think they're fun and they get the show that we're doing.

for people who don't remember how my show was born, truly.

Like, Dan, you came to me and you were like, we're doing this thing here at Metal Arc.

We want you to do something.

What do you want to do?

And the first episode, of course, that I decided to do, we put Dan in the chair of discomfort.

Because you, I mean, genuinely, Dan did not know that what we were doing with episode one of PTFO was reliving the entire history of,

of his phone conversations on his show with literally Donald Trump.

Can you fire my co-host on your way out the door, Stu Gatz?

I know everyone requests this of you everywhere you go.

Just fire Stu Gatz.

Tell him he's fired.

So you are just actually physically trying to become like smaller and you're trying to shrink inside of yourself.