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Dan Neidle

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197 total appearances

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The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

They can do other things.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

They can relocate.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

They can close, they can move online, they can bargain more.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

So tenants, when they're negotiating rent and their power, such as they have, to demand and set rent, is driven by the total cost of occupying it.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

And that means rates and rent.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

So that's the theory, but the evidence has shown that, and that's certainly outside London as well as inside London, just to a lesser extent.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

Ultimately...

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

It flows through to landlords.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

And this is not some esoteric secret.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

This is really well known.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

Government knows it.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

IFS know it.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

The Treasury certainly know it.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

And so it's really sad to see politicians who either don't know or are pretending not to know that business rates go through to landlords.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

And if you spend millions of pounds on a cut in business rates, that is mostly a handout to landlords.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

But it's never that transparent, is it?

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

Because you've probably got upward only rent reviews in your contract.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

The rent would go up anyway.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

You're not going to know how much it would have gone up if there hadn't been a change in business rates.

The Rest Is Money
286. Dan Neidle: Pubs don’t deserve a VAT cut

It's all unenforceable.