Dan Pfeiffer

Yeah, and you got to talk about things.

Are there Democrats out there who you think are doing it right, who understand this media environment and are sort of communicating the right way?

And I'll stipulate AOC and Zoran right away, but are there others?

Yeah.

If you were giving it, like we're going to have somewhere between 12 and 200 Democrats running for president in 2028.

If you had a chance to sit down with them and give them some advice about how to be a more effective, more authentic communicator in that presidential election, what would you tell them?

David Pakman, I think we'll leave it there.

Thank you so much for spending the time with us today.

Hope to talk to you again soon.

That's our show for today.

Thank you to David Pakman for joining the show.

Love it.

Tommy and John will be back in your feed on Tuesday.

Bye everyone.

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