Dan Pfeiffer

But we need people to trust the process.

I mean, I hope he would be willing to look at the reality situation and recognize that because of the mistakes that he made, that the best thing for the party...

Would be to step down.

I don't think he's going to do that.

We're in this mess because he was trying to protect himself, not the party.

So hard to say.

I mean, you know, is the are we really going to take the even if it's easy, it's an extraordinary step to remove the DNC chairs.

Anyone going to do that five months before the midterms?

I'd be surprised.

And then you think it's a real question before the 2028 calendar is set as to whether we have to do something different here.

Also, the other problem is no one seems to want the job.

Yeah, there's been a lot.

I would say to people who are interested in what happened, there's been a lot of actual autopsies from outside groups.

Way to Win has one.

Catalyst has their report.

We talked about Rob Flaherty's Bulwark piece the other day.

There's one from, I think, the Strategic Victory Fund, if I'm saying that correctly, has one.

There's actually some pretty good, pretty exhaustive work about what happened in 2024 that people want they should go look at.

But looking at this version is not worth doing.

Because you could look for it.