Dan Rankin (aka Trials)

there was your artwork on screens all over the place.

There's a lot of stuff coming roaring out of you.

So were you that kid always drawing or that kid who's always trying to fiddle and make things, make things, make things, live inside your head and make your own little empire of creativity?

Before I got the wrestling ring, like my main toy was just a pile of junk at the back that I would try and make this short circuit robot out of, you know what I mean?

Just praying that if I got the combination right, I'd have a mate.

I know if I didn't find music or music find me, I would have been a cartoonist of some sort for sure.

Just whatever could get this across.

Had you grown up with a lot of music in the house?

Not so much, nah.

Like, I don't remember it too much.

Like, I only remember a handful of songs.

Like, it's just staples.

Like, Four Non-Blondes, my mum would play over and over again.

And what about hip-hop?

I'm hearing a bit of Public Enemy in your early stuff.

Are you listening to a lot of that when you're young?

Is that what it is?

The first time I heard that, I heard Public Enemy and N.W.A.

as a child, and I was terrified, and I loved it.

I'm like, whatever this is, is dangerous.