Dan Rankin (aka Trials)

And really understanding them, as I was saying earlier, seeing my parents as people is one of the most fundamental things for me as an adult now to understand that

Okay, they're the product of their environment too, and so am I. So what is the difference?

What do I have?

What have they given me that enables me to end or perpetuate a cycle at the moment?

And because I'm in this responsible position of being a parent, it's my job to end said cycles.

So I took on board that that was a big thing that I was –

prone to and if i'm prone to it i guarantee my children will be and setting the example that this this is just not a home where it is it's not that it's not a home where it's normalized is paramount to me and i'll i would trade it all every single day i would sit here and do deep dives and laps around my brain all day long for them not to understand what it feels like to have this association with the smell or the anxiety that there's wine in the fridge or there's a

It's Christmas, so everyone's going to be drunk, and at the end of the day, there's going to be fighting on the front lawn.

It just has to happen.

Every single year, this has to happen because...

We're going to get drunk and then as soon as Creedence starts playing, someone's getting beaten up.

It was just a family function and that was normal.

And normalising that is not the environment that I wanted my kids to grow up in.

So now I'm talking to a man who's very successful.

He's taken a whole lot of risks and they've paid off creatively for you.

And the man's got a wonderful marriage, beautiful kids, kind of built a really lovely life and kicked the booze and all those things.

And I saw your set last night and this is a set of songs from your new album.

And hearing you perform those songs, it felt like kind of an exorcism.

You know, there's the great old cliche about how to write a novel.

It says, write from your wound.