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Dan Runcie

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
113 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

But the challenge is this, the effort to fight those cases can often take a considerable amount of work.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

But from a high level, one of the big distinctions is whether a case is fair use if that's the dispute or if there's a copyright infringement.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

So for instance, if I was to buy a song off of iTunes and then I was to then use that song for an AI training model, there could be some debate about whether or not that is fair use since I technically bought that song and I now have some use in order to how I choose to use it.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

But if I then rip that same song from YouTube,

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

And I didn't necessarily pay for that.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

That then can become a copyright infringement dispute.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

So what you're seeing right now play out with the major record labels and the lawsuits that they have with Suno and Udio, the labels are pushing that there is a copyright infringement case.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

But on the other side, Suno and others are saying that this could be a fair use example.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

There is some room to be debated on whether or not the Sunos and Udios actually did buy versus did they get from YouTube or other sources.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

We don't know the details of that.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

That's in the actual filings themselves.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

But that's just one example of how this fair use distinction can be debatable.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

The challenge of that, and that is something that I've even experienced myself with someone that puts out videos on YouTube and other platforms.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

There's a few things happening here because certain platforms do tend to be a bit more sensitive, you could say, to potential copyright claims or to the DMCA takedowns.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

That's the Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedown notices.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

And YouTube does tend to be a bit more sensitive or does tend to send more of these claims.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

And that's for a few reasons.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

YouTube, compared to some of the other social media platforms, contributes more revenue overall to the underlying creators behind its platform.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

So there's often therefore more dispute about how the pie gets split between who gets what.

Marketplace All-in-One
The music industry vs. AI (rerun)

And additionally, YouTube has a much stronger content ID platform.