Dan Shepard

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert.

I'm Dan Shepard.

I'm joined by Lily Padman.

And today we have a returning guest.

Yes.

He was last year, weeks before shutdown.

Six years ago.

Ezra Klein, he is a political commentator and a journalist.

He co-founded Vox and is currently a New York Times podcast host and op-ed columnist.

Ding, ding, ding.

That's why he's here.

I read...

an op eddie wrote that i really really liked that we're going to discuss at length his books include abundance which is gaining a lot of political traction also been on so many big lists phil gates's list obama's list just man oh man and then why we're polarized which was how we met him the first time uh and of course listen to his podcast it is extremely well informed and beautifully executed the ezra klein show please enjoy ezra klein he's in our church world

Okay, I do believe you're stronger than you were six years ago.

Have you been exercising?

Are you doing a weight training program?

I'm just fascinated by people doing that.

By the way, this is going to dovetail beautifully into the piece you wrote that I loved.

Yeah, why can't a centrist liberal talk about peptides and lifting weights?

Listen, if you can't talk about peptides as a liberal, we're not going to win anymore.